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KidRocker
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 Question B4 Ordering

Hello Everyone: I have a 4 channel amp hooked to 4 speakers. I'm going to be purchasing a Mono Amp and a sub. What kinda wiring is going to be involved? Am I going to have to go through the same BS I did with the first amp? Or will I be able to somehow come off the amp I have now? If I have to buy more wiring, What will I need? My amp now has 10 gauge wiring. I think the amp I'm buying recommends 8 gauge. My amp now has some outs for a second amp, But I still have to get power to it. Thanks.

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Originally posted on 03-08-2005 by Shannon
you're going to have to rewire your power and use thicker gauge wire, like a 4 gauge to a distribution block. then from the block you can distribute the power through two seperate 8 gauge wires. As far as signal, you wont face anything too harsh when wiring another amp.

i second that.... 4 gauge with distribution block

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My first girlfriends name was shannon and she was 15 also. Of course that was 22 years ago ;-) I figured I would have to get a distribution block and more wire. Those distribution blocks are pricey. Don't they sell them at lowes or somewhere? I don't care if it says "StreetWires" on it or not. So I would have to buy some 4 gauge wire from the battery to distribution block? And then use some 8 gauge wire to run to both amps? I thought I would never say this, But am I going to need a Cap? My amps aren't that big I don't think. Do they sell the 4 gauge wire by itself? Or do I have to buy another kit? Thanks Y'all

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you can get a cheap 4 ga amp kit at walmart for $25. If you don't want to run another set of RCAs from the back of your head unit to the second amp use the out from your first on and daisy chain the alt power wire from the first amp to save on having to get behind your radio any way. As for a cap I had 400 watts (all Audiobahn) running through my truck and didn't need a cap. When I went up to 800 watts my lights flickered a little when I cranked it up. So I would suggest a Cap it it goes over 600 watts.

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u dont necesarily need a fused distribution block.. at walmart they sell this kit for multiple amps that has a 4 gauge in 2 8gauge outs that works just fine.. and i believe it costs less than $30 with a 100amp inline fuse.. plus u'll get a 4 gauge wire and enough 8 gauge to wire 2 amps near the distribution block...

and as for a capacitor.. i wouldnt worry about it either unless u have more than 500rms going to a sub.... i guess this is in compliance with what punkroc said huh?

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no dont get a cap unless you have a HO alt...the new cap will just put more stress on your not alt and eventually burn up your electrical system making you replace your alt anyways...caps are useless and hurtful unless you already have a new HO alt anyways

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I don't believe I have a High Output Alt. The trucks like a 93 so I'm lucky it has any output at all. Thanks for the info jaboran, I have a walmart supercenter over here. I'll go check it out and see if they have that wiring your talking about. I will only have 350 RMS outta the sub so I should be alright. Later Dudes.

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Caps can be useful if its just slight power you need at certain times, why do you think they have caps? they kind of serve as an alternative for certain situations. Beside, if you had an HO alt, why would you be concerned about having a cap?

well if you get a cap before a alt then your alt will have to charge up both batt. and the cap. giving your electrical system more stress. i really dont know why they make caps? false security blanket?

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well if you get a cap before a alt then your alt will have to charge up both batt. and the cap. giving your electrical system more stress. i really dont know why they make caps? false security blanket?

Adding caps or batteries will NOT change the stress on your alternator (considering you had a battery in there in the first place). All they will do is help keep ur voltages up when demand exceeds the generated energy. Yes, both batteries and caps help out with this, but from a lot of experiances, battery upgrades are most cost effective, but people don't see this, to them a 50 dollar cap looks cooler, takes less space and is cheaper then a 100-150dollar battery.

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Adding caps or batteries will NOT change the stress on your alternator (considering you had a battery in there in the first place). All they will do is help keep ur voltages up when demand exceeds the generated energy. Yes, both batteries and caps help out with this, but from a lot of experiances, battery upgrades are most cost effective, but people don't see this, to them a 50 dollar cap looks cooler, takes less space and is cheaper then a 100-150dollar battery.

but what happens when your cap isnt charged? they do need to be charged.

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but what happens when your cap isnt charged? they do need to be charged.

caps don't have THAT much capacity, it doesn't take them long to recharge. They will not waste energy (no heat generated, little resistance) and they will not generate energy. So if your amp were to take X energy from the cap, the cap would then take X back from the battery which would take X back from the alternator. So basicly its another middle man that keeps a small stock of power.

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caps don't have THAT much capacity, it doesn't take them long to recharge. They will not waste energy (no heat generated, little resistance) and they will not generate energy. So if your amp were to take X energy from the cap, the cap would then take X back from the battery which would take X back from the alternator. So basicly its another middle man that keeps a small stock of power.

good point, but then what is the point in having them, thay are a bandaid on a system that needs stiches. i dont like them but if you dont have the money for a new alt i guess they have a purpose. you are very knowledgable korndog.

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Originally posted on 03-09-2005 by korndog
caps don't have THAT much capacity, it doesn't take them long to recharge. They will not waste energy (no heat generated, little resistance) and they will not generate energy. So if your amp were to take X energy from the cap, the cap would then take X back from the battery which would take X back from the alternator. So basicly its another middle man that keeps a small stock of power.

A capacitor will NOT replace the need for a high output alternator. If your electrical system is inadequate the only way to fix it is to replace the alternator. When the battery is run down, and when the capacitor is depleted, the alternator has to work even harder in order to supply current to the car, the audio system, and also to recharge the capacitor as well as recharge the car's battery. By adding a capacitor to try taking the place of a high-output alternator, you are causing more work for your alternator, and causing even more damage to that stock alternator.

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good point, but then what is the point in having them, thay are a bandaid on a system that needs stiches. i dont like them but if you dont have the money for a new alt i guess they have a purpose. you are very knowledgable korndog.

excatly, people like temporary fixes, this is why they put water instead of coolant in there cars and use tape on broken windows. but besides all that, caps just look cool i guess, one of my friends actually took my advice and put a yellow top battery, improved his voltages and sound more then 3 caps, but he keep the caps just because didn't want to leave the rack empty for shows.

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excatly, people like temporary fixes, this is why they put water instead of coolant in there cars and use tape on broken windows. but besides all that, caps just look cool i guess, one of my friends actually took my advice and put a yellow top battery, improved his voltages and sound more then 3 caps, but he keep the caps just because didn't want to leave the rack empty for shows.

but most people dont ever upgrade. they stick with the caps which doesnt make it any better.

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