Need a little push in the right direction

Well I need a little nudge in the right direction I am looking at a new head unit It must have three outs -for the sub and front and rears a 3 or 2 way crossover and high and low filters and a really good eq at least 7 or 10 bands. Heres a list of what I have been looking at:eclipse 8053,8455,8454,8445,8443.... or a pioneer/priemer deh-p8600... Alpine 9835,9833 not a alpine with a slide bar peice of shit. Maybe a clarion if you guys would suggest a few models .I am also open to any suggestions you have. My budget is about 450-500 bucks so please help me out. By the way I am up grading from a sony cdx ca710x .... I am leaning towards a eclipse or the pioneer but if any of you have a alpine 9813 or 9815 I would like to buy it. I am in search of SQ and dont care about frashy displays but I dont want a ugly head unit.

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panasonic:
CQ-C8303U - 2.5v outputs, 7bnd eq, color graphic display
MXE CQ-C9801U - 5v, 9bnd, blue graphics dspl.
CQ-C9700U 5v , 9bnd, blue grpahics

Pioneer:
DEH-P680MP - 4v, 7bnd, blue grphcs
DEH-P860MP - 6.5v 13bnd color display

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either of those eclipse/pioneer/panasonic will do better than the alpines, will give you more eq bands, higher voltage output, and this new alpine decks have come with several defects that they didnt have few years back.

i guess bang for your $ is gonna be pioneer or panasonic, then the eclipse. but all of them including the alpine models you mention are very good head units, its a matter of you doing the math and see wich one will give you more for each $. also how easy theyre to use, and to tune also.

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Originally posted on 02-12-2006 by salcedohumberto
either of those eclipse/pioneer/panasonic will do better than the alpines, will give you more eq bands, higher voltage output, and this new alpine decks have come with several defects that they didnt have few years back.

i guess bang for your $ is gonna be pioneer or panasonic, then the eclipse. but all of them including the alpine models you mention are very good head units, its a matter of you doing the math and see wich one will give you more for each $. also how easy theyre to use, and to tune also.

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Originally posted on 02-12-2006 by John66
I have Heard that panasonic is not all that great on sq. But that is hear tell... I was not really to hot for the alpines anyway but was just wondering if they were the way to go.

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will I just looked at the eclipse 8455 and I think I just fell in love because I got a boner when I saw everything you can do with it I am also in love with the eclipse 8053... Just cant decide. I also like the pioneer 860.

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compare:

Panasonic CQ-C9700U
- 5v Outputs
- 9 bands eq
- CD signal to noise 106db
price: +/- 250$

Pioneer Premier DEH-680MP
- 4v Outputs
- 7 bands eq
- CD signal to noise N/A
price: +/- 240$

Alpine CDA-9855
- 4v Outputs
- 5 bands eq
- CD Signal to noise 105db
price: +/- 350$


your looking to spend more $ obviously but you can see here why i was saying good stuff about panasonic head units. head to head to similar price head units it comes with more bang for the buck plus more tunning options....

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Originally posted on 02-12-2006 by John66
will I just looked at the eclipse 8455 and I think I just fell in love because I got a boner when I saw everything you can do with it I am also in love with the eclipse 8053... Just cant decide. I also like the pioneer 860.

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what i dont like from eclipse is theyr not very user friendly...its hard to tune each options, and the menus, its not very easy to use. specially while your driving.

I like the head units simple, basic to use, something that you can tune up in seconds pretty easy without having to go trhu lots of menus and reading the manual.

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It is on the upper end of your budget, but I would go with an Alpine DVA-9860 and an Alpine PXA-H701. This setup is extremely flexible and with a little shopping can be found for right around $500. Otherwise the Eclipse units are extremely nice and offer much more processing than anything else in the price range. I also have seen quite a few 8053s going for under $250 which is quite a deal. The 8053 is my personal favorite besides the Alpine combo. It has a 10 band parametric equalizer, no internal amp, digital out, 3 way active x-over, time alignment and balanced line inputs. The newer Eclipses (8454 and 8455) have similiar features, but they don't have a digital output, and do have internal amps and play MP3s.

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Well I find the alpine dva-9860 a little crappy because it is really nothing but a low end alpine with a few features. I dont really care for the panasonic not because its a bad unit I just dont like it. I am thinking of either going with the eclipse 8053 or 8455 or 8454 or the pioneer 860 (whats the diff. between pioneer and preimer?). My question is do any of these radios have a motorized face were you just press a button and a motor drives the face up and down. I know it sounds stupid but I have never had a unit with one and allways wanted one. I will probally go check out the eclipse unit to see how user friendly it is. By the way thanks for the help guys.

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Originally posted on 02-13-2006 by John66
Well I find the alpine dva-9860 a little crappy because it is really nothing but a low end alpine with a few features. I dont really care for the panasonic not because its a bad unit I just dont like it. I am thinking of either going with the eclipse 8053 or 8455 or 8454 or the pioneer 860 (whats the diff. between pioneer and preimer?). My question is do any of these radios have a motorized face were you just press a button and a motor drives the face up and down. I know it sounds stupid but I have never had a unit with one and allways wanted one. I will probally go check out the eclipse unit to see how user friendly it is. By the way thanks for the help guys.

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Originally posted on 02-13-2006 by pksimon28
The whole reason for the DVA-9860 is that it can control the PXA-H701 processor. The PXA-H701 has 31 bands of stereo eq for the front channels, 31 bands of stereo eq for the rear channels, 31 bands of eq for the center channel, and 16 bands of eq for the sub channel. It also has 5 bands of parametric eq for the front/rear/center channels and 2 bands of parametric eq for the sub channel. It has time alignment on all channels and has the ability to do true 5.1 setup. Also, all the connections are digital meaning that there is only one digital to analog conversion in the signal chain. Basically it outshines anything that could be done with normal HU processing, but of course this comes with a price. All I can say is that if I didn't have my driverack I would have this setup.

All of the units you are looking at have motorized faces. The difference between the Pioneer DEH-P8600MP and the Premier DEH-P860MP is that the Premier DEH-P860MP has a 3 way active x-over, 6.5 volt preouts, and a two year warranty. Personally, I find the Eclipse units more user friendly than the 860...

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Considering this thread is over 2 yrs old I think he already made his decision.

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