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infinity999
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 Adding USB to Alpine decks

I see this device that Alpine makes to add a USB port to your compatible Alpine deck.. My question is they say that you can play .mp3's off a thumb drive.. What's to stop someone from hooking up a portable USB hard drive? That would be sweet since you can get 100 GB usb HD for 120.00. Beats spending 400.00 for an ipod.. Which to me is a HD with a headphone jack.. Has anyone tried this at all? The adapter is 150.00...but still cheaper than the Ipod...and larger..

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 RE: Adding USB to Alpine decks

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Originally posted on 08-26-2006 by infinity999
I see this device that Alpine makes to add a USB port to your compatible Alpine deck.. My question is they say that you can play .mp3's off a thumb drive.. What's to stop someone from hooking up a portable USB hard drive? That would be sweet since you can get 100 GB usb HD for 120.00. Beats spending 400.00 for an ipod.. Which to me is a HD with a headphone jack.. Has anyone tried this at all? The adapter is 150.00...but still cheaper than the Ipod...and larger..

The only drawback I could think of is the extra current that the 120 gb hd would need. I would think the flashdrive would use a fraction of what the HD would, and that may not be factored into internal or vehicle fusing. Also, I wonder if it would be the same software to read the flashdrive and HD. I'm not prolific with either, but figured I would give it a shot in the dark though.

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 RE: RE: Adding USB to Alpine decks

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The only drawback I could think of is the extra current that the 120 gb hd would need. I would think the flashdrive would use a fraction of what the HD would, and that may not be factored into internal or vehicle fusing. Also, I wonder if it would be the same software to read the flashdrive and HD. I'm not prolific with either, but figured I would give it a shot in the dark though.

Well I would think reading a usb hard drive would be the same as reading a thumb drive. The interface is the same, just the physical characteristics are different. As for the power, it might be better to get an external hard drive that requires additional power so that it is not having to rely on power from the Alpine usb port. You wouldn't need a very powerful AC/DC converter to run a hard drive :-). Be nice if someone has experimented with this..

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 RE: RE: RE: Adding USB to Alpine decks

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Well I would think reading a usb hard drive would be the same as reading a thumb drive. The interface is the same, just the physical characteristics are different. As for the power, it might be better to get an external hard drive that requires additional power so that it is not having to rely on power from the Alpine usb port. You wouldn't need a very powerful AC/DC converter to run a hard drive :-). Be nice if someone has experimented with this..

I could be a sweet setup if it works out. I say you give a shot and report back!

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I agree, it is definately worth a shot! One downside I see is going to be overall retrieval time from the time you hit a key on the deck, send the command through the circuitry, to the cable, to the drive, then the drive reacts.. THe drive reaction I see could be a bottleneck.. Nothing is faster than Flash.. But if you do go this route, I say get the fastest HDD you can.. Hell, go get a drive case kit for a standard 3.5" desktop HDD, and buy the biggest Rapter drive you can.. That will make it go a little quicker..But this definately looks sweet.. One thing I always wondered was if I could hook a USB hub to the port, and run an array of flash drives.. (PNY now has 4GB thumb drives for example.. the hubs I always seem to buy have 4 or 7 ports.. Thats 16GB or 42GB of space respectively..) Let us know how it goes!

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I agree, it is definately worth a shot! One downside I see is going to be overall retrieval time from the time you hit a key on the deck, send the command through the circuitry, to the cable, to the drive, then the drive reacts.. THe drive reaction I see could be a bottleneck.. Nothing is faster than Flash.. But if you do go this route, I say get the fastest HDD you can.. Hell, go get a drive case kit for a standard 3.5" desktop HDD, and buy the biggest Rapter drive you can.. That will make it go a little quicker..But this definately looks sweet.. One thing I always wondered was if I could hook a USB hub to the port, and run an array of flash drives.. (PNY now has 4GB thumb drives for example.. the hubs I always seem to buy have 4 or 7 ports.. Thats 16GB or 42GB of space respectively..) Let us know how it goes!

I would think the seek time on a 5400 RPM drive would be enough.. The 10k raptor I believe would be overkill. Seek time on a 5400 is still relatively quick and it doesn't have to push much data. Isn't the Ipod just a slow hard drive with a headphone jack? What a waste.. Ipod's are for people who think Apple invented the .mp3. As far as the circuity, I am sure it is USB 2.0 so it should be as fast as the Ipod would be....

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It wasnt so much the speed of the drive itself if compared to a real world situation.. I am trying to factor in all the variables such as the speed at which the deck can handle the info.. It may take whatever your seek time on that 5400 RPM is and increase it by half or more.. THis is just speculation and I have only experienced these USB hubs of the crappy decks at work with little flash drives.. And as far the iPod goes, I agree 100% what you said.. I however own one.. I do not think Apple invented the MP3.. I KNOW they didn't.. They didn't even start the DAP revolution! Compaq OFFICIALLY started it, the Diamond followed suit with that very first Rio.. When I bought my iPod, I wasn't really looking to Apple or any specific brand.. I went to work, and talked to one of the MP3 player guys.. I looked at wha tthye had, and the iPod's capacity was exactly what I wanted.. I was trying to get rid of the 9 or 10 CD binders I carried in mycar alone.. I wouldn't have bought it new, but in 2004, I got my gen 3 iPod for 130 tax, case, and service plan included.. I love the portability, but my point is, if it were an iRiver, or a Zen, it would be just the same.. I can listen to my music at any time I want, in any place I want.. Unfortunately, my Western Digital 160GB doesnt have that headphone jack I need :lol:

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It wasnt so much the speed of the drive itself if compared to a real world situation.. I am trying to factor in all the variables such as the speed at which the deck can handle the info.. It may take whatever your seek time on that 5400 RPM is and increase it by half or more.. THis is just speculation and I have only experienced these USB hubs of the crappy decks at work with little flash drives.. And as far the iPod goes, I agree 100% what you said.. I however own one.. I do not think Apple invented the MP3.. I KNOW they didn't.. They didn't even start the DAP revolution! Compaq OFFICIALLY started it, the Diamond followed suit with that very first Rio.. When I bought my iPod, I wasn't really looking to Apple or any specific brand.. I went to work, and talked to one of the MP3 player guys.. I looked at wha tthye had, and the iPod's capacity was exactly what I wanted.. I was trying to get rid of the 9 or 10 CD binders I carried in mycar alone.. I wouldn't have bought it new, but in 2004, I got my gen 3 iPod for 130 tax, case, and service plan included.. I love the portability, but my point is, if it were an iRiver, or a Zen, it would be just the same.. I can listen to my music at any time I want, in any place I want.. Unfortunately, my Western Digital 160GB doesnt have that headphone jack I need :lol:

I agree, the Ipod is a great product, they just want too much $ for it in my opinion. Not saying that everyone that owns one knows nothing about electronics, that was just a broad statement about the general public.... I will also agree that a lot rides on the speed of that port. If it is a good as the Ipod interface supposedly is, it will work great.

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i've been thinkin about doin the same thing with an external hard drive since i found this great deal on an 8in touch screen with pc hookup. it just seemed a waste to try and fit an entire system when i could just get an external drive and put all the software on it. or did i just get ahead of myself and that's not possible

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Originally posted on 08-30-2006 by PowerAcoustikman
Actually bro the Ipod uses a 7200RPM HD in the 5th gen. haha

Well my expert opinion is...for whatever its worth is that a 4200 hard drive could adequately serve up .mp3's. Since the Ipod is reading video I suppose the 7200 might come in handy.. For .mp3's that are not usually any bigger than 8MB I don't really see a need...

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