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punkroc719
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 Batteries

Ok this is gonna be a little different question from the usual which is better extra battery or cap or alt. I am about to change the battery in my truck out for a Kinetik battery. Does anyone have one of these? From what I have read on it, it is like an aircraft battery (high discharge/charge rate) and this means it is made different then regular batteries. I am also looking at doing multiple batteries in another car I am working on and I am wondering if I should do the Kinetik in it as well or go with Tsunami batteries? I guess I am looking to see what works best for those of you who have multiple batteries. I have heard bad things about the new Optima yellow tops and this is from the manufacturer themselves. Thanks in advance.

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what did u hear about yellow tops?

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punkroc719
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That they don't hold thier charge like they use to.

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LoudAssGeo
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 RE: Batteries

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Originally posted on 09-01-2006 by punkroc719
Ok this is gonna be a little different question from the usual which is better extra battery or cap or alt. I am about to change the battery in my truck out for a Kinetik battery. Does anyone have one of these? From what I have read on it, it is like an aircraft battery (high discharge/charge rate) and this means it is made different then regular batteries. I am also looking at doing multiple batteries in another car I am working on and I am wondering if I should do the Kinetik in it as well or go with Tsunami batteries? I guess I am looking to see what works best for those of you who have multiple batteries. I have heard bad things about the new Optima yellow tops and this is from the manufacturer themselves. Thanks in advance.

alternator is best. adding a battery only adds more stress to your charging system. besides extra batts are only good for listenin to the stereo while the car is off.

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slowest thing in your electrical system is an alt. of course it makes power but it needs the battery to filter and to produce power the alt cant (even ho alts will run into this). the kinetik batteries of the same size have a higher capacity (over 50 aH in g31 size). if you are going to go to a really large set up ho alt and extra batteries are your best bet as the extra batteries in back help with the voltage drop from front to back.

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slowest thing in your electrical system is an alt. of course it makes power but it needs the battery to filter and to produce power the alt cant (even ho alts will run into this). the kinetik batteries of the same size have a higher capacity (over 50 aH in g31 size). if you are going to go to a really large set up ho alt and extra batteries are your best bet as the extra batteries in back help with the voltage drop from front to back.

actually, the battery is only designed to be a reserve used to crank the car and to power lights and stuff when the car is off. the alternator is designed to power the entire car when its running. thats why the postive post on the alternator usually goes through out the car and then to the battery

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actually, the battery is only designed to be a reserve used to crank the car and to power lights and stuff when the car is off. the alternator is designed to power the entire car when its running. thats why the postive post on the alternator usually goes through out the car and then to the battery

take the battery out lights flicker really bad then your voltage regulator goes up in smoke. alts have a nasty ripple effect by themselves and in car audio in a large system when rpm isnt up it will pull from the battery.....

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take the battery out lights flicker really bad then your voltage regulator goes up in smoke. alts have a nasty ripple effect by themselves and in car audio in a large system when rpm isnt up it will pull from the battery.....

ok, lets use horsepower for example. if you have a car and you add a high flow filter you get a lil more power yet the air come in better but doenst go out better so therefore you need a better exhaust/header. what i am saying you cant take benefit of a modification if its only partly done. you need a upgraded alternator in conjuction with a upgraded battery, along with upgraded engine grounds and alternator to battey wire(the big 3). using numerous battery's isnt the thing to do. it will cause more of a stain on an alternator thuis causing more flickering.

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ok, lets use horsepower for example. if you have a car and you add a high flow filter you get a lil more power yet the air come in better but doenst go out better so therefore you need a better exhaust/header. what i am saying you cant take benefit of a modification if its only partly done. you need a upgraded alternator in conjuction with a upgraded battery, along with upgraded engine grounds and alternator to battey wire(the big 3). using numerous battery's isnt the thing to do. it will cause more of a stain on an alternator thuis causing more flickering.

i concur but depending on the situation just the alt up grade or battery upgrade without taking into account how everything works is pointless. alts need batteries batteries need alts it depends on the time over overloading on the alt to what the vehicle needs. if you just upgrade the alt without taking advantage of the extra battery you still get a solid voltage drop at the amps.when doing anything its also important to make sure the condition of the electrical system of the car. i know a few people who think batteries are "bad" and run their cars so they idle at over 2000 rpm which in my opinion is pure stupidity for a daily driver lol

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i concur but depending on the situation just the alt up grade or battery upgrade without taking into account how everything works is pointless. alts need batteries batteries need alts it depends on the time over overloading on the alt to what the vehicle needs. if you just upgrade the alt without taking advantage of the extra battery you still get a solid voltage drop at the amps.when doing anything its also important to make sure the condition of the electrical system of the car. i know a few people who think batteries are "bad" and run their cars so they idle at over 2000 rpm which in my opinion is pure stupidity for a daily driver lol

right. i mean but the point we both have is you can just do one modification without the other. if you have a stock alt with numerous batts then that equals bad. if you have a upgraded alt with a stock batt that equals bad. you have to have both. but i still wouldnt run more than one batt under the hood and one in the back

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right. i mean but the point we both have is you can just do one modification without the other. if you have a stock alt with numerous batts then that equals bad. if you have a upgraded alt with a stock batt that equals bad. you have to have both. but i still wouldnt run more than one batt under the hood and one in the back

depends on the power. if you are over 3000 watts you will need more than 1 battery in back for daily. those that compete know what the batteries can do as well as the alts and if you only have room for 1 alt get the biggest you can and add batteries. the extra batteries wil at least act as a saftey net so you are less likely to toast amps or let amps toast subs...when i say this though im not saying 60 amp alt and use 10 batteries there is a little common sense that needs to be used

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depends on the power. if you are over 3000 watts you will need more than 1 battery in back for daily. those that compete know what the batteries can do as well as the alts and if you only have room for 1 alt get the biggest you can and add batteries. the extra batteries wil at least act as a saftey net so you are less likely to toast amps or let amps toast subs...when i say this though im not saying 60 amp alt and use 10 batteries there is a little common sense that needs to be used

sometimes you have to be very clear on this site lol. there are some people that will look at it like damn i can add batteries and be ok, next thing you know there taking batts out of a junk yard and before u know it they have 15 old batts power a 15000 watt lanzadwood amp they got at the flea market for 20 bucks thinkin it can power 20 15s haha

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id replace the battery with a cap....if you turn your car on, and take off the battery, it will still run....so it doens't really need a battery, cum face

most cars you do that with you will fry the electrical system

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hmm ive heard of connecting it to the exsisting battery never using it as a replacement

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kinetik are very powerful batteries and very good. adding more batteries is not bad for you electrical system. without more batteries when you car IS runing and a large alt you will stil drop voltige. speaking from experince. we run 34500watts in our van (pics soon) and with 6 yellow tops and ohio gen we still drop 2 volts.Online Car Audio Competition Competitor

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