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 breakin' it down old skool! (with fosgate)

being i'm only 18, i wasn't priveledged to grow up in the era of the "good" fosgate amps, so i'm wanting to do an old skool install so i can experience what i've missed. only problem with this is i'm not quite sure where to start. i've been looking at the original punch amps, the punch HD series, the punch DSM series, the punch ix series, and the trans ana's. i would like to know y'alls opinions on these amps (like which ones were better) 

in this install, i'm using the first series fanatic Q's for speakers, and two 12 inch power hx2's for the subs.

i want to use two 2-channel amps for the components and if one of the amps above could power the subs, then i'll do that, but if not then i'll use two amps for the subs.

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Being 18 you missed the GOOD Rockford day's. I'm 26 and cought the tail end of the high power amp's.

For a old school rockford setup, look for something pre 96. The one's you want will be all black(No silver) they will have fin's on amp body and end cap's. The amp's will have red writting. ALSO the amp's WON'T have a crossover switch(per say)....they have a small card on the bottom side of amp, you install diffrent way's for diffrent freq's.

The best part about those old school amp's is they had LINK's. All the amp's were the same height and width. The link make all you amp's....usaly 3, look like 1 MASSIVE amp and no wire could be seen.----- VERY COOL.----

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yep, those are the amps i was looking at. right now i'm eying a punch 200 dsm. anyway, thanks man.

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yep, those are the amps i was looking at. right now i'm eying a punch 200 dsm. anyway, thanks man.



Those and earlier are awesome.

I was fortunate enough to own a few from the original Punch to those dsms and they were all killer.  The only ones to avoid from that era are the series 1....those are unstable, unreliable, and the terminals have a bad habit of snapping off the board.

The old punch speakers (the ones that say MADE IN USA) on them are all pretty nice too.

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Watch out for the OLD school punch amp's....they don't have power and ground termanils.....they HARD wire, right off the amp. The issue thet the wire breaks inside the insulation or the wire is cut so short that you can't splice.

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Watch out for the OLD school punch amp's....they don't have power and ground termanils.....they HARD wire, right off the amp. The issue thet the wire breaks inside the insulation or the wire is cut so short that you can't splice.



Yeah, I bet those fail after 25 years....   I'd just solder a replacement straight to the board.

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If  you want old school 80's Era go Orion or PPI the fosgates were strong but they all had one problem or another either they overheated or something. If you go early 90's old school your choices are extinsive Fosgate has had many good products but never the best in my opinion 90's Xtant, Pheonix Gold and others kicked ass, 80's PPI and Orion HCCA were killer.

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so if i found a g1 hcca225 for cheap, should i jump on it? what is the true wrms of that amp anyway?

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Output Power at 12.5V:
2 x 25W @ 4 ohms
2 x 50W @ 2 ohms
2 x 100W @ 1 ohm
2 x 200W @ ½ ohm
1 x 100W @ 4 ohms bridged
1 x 200W @ 2 ohms bridged
1 x 400W @ 1 ohm bridged
THD: 0.03%
S/N Ratio: 110dB
Fuse: External 35A
Freq. Response: 6Hz ∼ 20kHz (±0.5dB)
Dimensions: 11" x 8.5" x 2.25" (28cm x 21.6cm x 5.7cm)

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that's not the true watts is it? i thought that was the factory rated watts...

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Factory ratings are true watts many amps are A weighted or somewhat decieving in what they publish. In respect to the 225 for competition it could be classified as a 50 Watt amplifier which helps in Class ratings. The actual numbers would increase in a 14Volt system. You'll notice that it has an exceptional distortion rating but it does not say at what impedence I suspect that rating is at 4 Ohms and is not near that good at .5 Ohms. A 225 is a good amp but it is not a big amp. Orion (Old School) has done a lot of research and development using low impedences their concept amps made power at nearly a dead short. The older stuff just like the new has it's own strengths and weakness Have you looked at old school Carver, Harmon Kardon, Zapco, Xtant, Phoenix Gold, US Amps or PPI Power Class

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say i'm wanting to push two 1200wrms subs off one old school amp (orion, fosgate, or ppi) which company would you go with and which model of their amps would you use?

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i've checked out some of the companies you listed, such as  us amps, zapco, and some of the ppi art series amps, but i'm new to the underrated goodness from back in the day. i'm more knowlegdable about new amps, so trying to find the right old school amp is starting to prove to be a challenge...

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i've checked out some of the companies you listed, such as  us amps, zapco, and some of the ppi art series amps, but i'm new to the underrated goodness from back in the day. i'm more knowlegdable about new amps, so trying to find the right old school amp is starting to prove to be a challenge...

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i've checked out some of the companies you listed, such as  us amps, zapco, and some of the ppi art series amps, but i'm new to the underrated goodness from back in the day. i'm more knowlegdable about new amps, so trying to find the right old school amp is starting to prove to be a challenge...

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